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05 Jun 2024 12:11:26
United fan coming in considered peace.
I work with a couple of City fans who have avoided any discussion regarding the club seeking legal action against the PL.
As this online resource is far less confronting, I would like an articulate opinion of this situation and that of the 115 charges.
I am very keen to hear a decent opinion or two because, after years of hearing United getting trashed by you guys for some of the favourable treatment you all insist we had, I'd like to know what value you might think those opinions have now?
I accept that most would avoid responding because this short-term legal impasse highlights an uncomfortable, itchy-teeth level, feeling for the club amongst the fans who have the class and intelligence to understand just how profound this situation is.
Personally, I think the way City have handled this entire situation is an absolute disgrace and an embarrassment to the sport.
A clear reflection of just how arrogant and entitled the very, very wealthy are.
I know that's no reflection of you fans and I understand the desire to defend the club because they're your club, but come on now, they're taking the p***, no?
{Ed002's Note - As I have explained, the proposed action against the Premier League is a completely separate issue to the case of the 115 charges whick will be heard in the autumn. Their objection is in respect to the sponsorship rules, more specifically the "associated party transaction" rules which deal with restricting the amount of sponsorship clubs can be given by businesses that are associated with their owners. They want the rules scrapped - which won't happen - and they want compensation for lost sponsorship - which won't happen. What may happen is an independent review of the rules given they were amended after the take over of Newcastle - perhaps without full consideration.
They have also made a separate claim regarding the voting rules whereby 70% of clubs should vote for any proposal to amend rules. I say "should" rather than "must as there have been exceptions. For example, when the proposal asked for the change to five substitutes to be endorsed, there were only nine of the required 14 in favour of it. The objections were based on many sides having a far stronger depth of squad it would be giving them an advantage. Yet it got through.
As for the charges, Manchester City have a date for the hearing. The commission is independent of the Premier League who are not responsible for the setting of a date or for the membership.
As for the charges, there is a huge amount of noise cluttering up the matter. A lot of the charges could either be dropped or batched to a sigle charge and easily dealt with. But sitting in the 115, there are three or four very serious matters the Manchester City will contest.
In terms of potential punishments, there will be no consideration to "title stripping" but if found guilty the potential punishments are slapped wrist (they need to clear out the charges which are simply noise and that may deal with those), fine (that could be negotiated to avoid any appeal - an option Nottingham Forest were looking to, but they were harshly treated), transfer ban (unlikely given a previous transfer ban for another club went horribly wrong for the authorities - but it is something that Everton may yet see if it looks like a third charge is likely), points deduction (if found guilty of some of the serious issues) and in theory relegation by expelling them from the Premier League if found guilty of multiple serious charges (could potentially happen but it would cause a huge problem with the EFL and the EFL clubs) or having their license cancelled completely (it has happened to Bury, Anzhi Makachkala and others over the years - but won't happen to Manchester City).}
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26 Apr 2024 07:39:21
{Ed's Note - Ork has posted a new article entitled, Options For Manchester United's Next Manager
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{Ed's Note - Ork has posted a new article entitled, The case for keeping Erik ten Hag at Manchester United